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02-10-09, 16:44
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I am my friends middle man
I have a question for anyone that knows this and while its partly presales its not fully presales. Let me explain the friends issue and since I am still fairly new to the windows side of geekness, I figure this would be the best place to ask it.
Friend has about six domains
Some of them run windows applications (.asp, etc. - no clue on these)
He was told that by the "management team" he has that all sites were needed to be on windows hosting only. I can look at the sites and only see that one is needed (since it has a program in it called .asp for some chat something or another).
How do you tell the difference?
How do I know this person really needs windows hosting, and if so with the chunk of sites he has does it have to be on a dedi?
From what I can tell all of the sites do a fair bit of traffic but nothing that I would think he needs a dedi for - is there a rule of thumb for this by chance?
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02-10-09, 18:24
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If the websites are developed using ASP, FrontPage, ASP.NET environment, Windows Streaming Media, Access, MS SQL Server or any of the other Microsoft’s owned technologies then you should consider Windows hosting for yourself. As the websites of your friend are developed using ASP then your friend should opt for Windows hosting only. ASP is not supported with Linux hosting.
It is not necessary to have a Dedicated server if you have multiple domains. Infact, according to your description about the traffic of the websites of your friend, I would recommend your friend to choose a Windows VPS package for himself. Windows VPS will offer you almost the same features as Windows Dedicated server and costs much less than a Windows Dedicated server.
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02-11-09, 16:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by centelo
I have a question for anyone that knows this and while its partly presales its not fully presales. Let me explain the friends issue and since I am still fairly new to the windows side of geekness, I figure this would be the best place to ask it.
Friend has about six domains
Some of them run windows applications (.asp, etc. - no clue on these)
He was told that by the "management team" he has that all sites were needed to be on windows hosting only. I can look at the sites and only see that one is needed (since it has a program in it called .asp for some chat something or another).
How do you tell the difference?
How do I know this person really needs windows hosting, and if so with the chunk of sites he has does it have to be on a dedi?
From what I can tell all of the sites do a fair bit of traffic but nothing that I would think he needs a dedi for - is there a rule of thumb for this by chance?
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Well, in order to determine if the client requires a linux or windows hosting server, you would probably need to understand his software and application requirements which will definitely provide you with an idea of his requirement of Operating System.
However, there is an exception where you can host php and MySQL on a windows server with the assistance of a plesk control panel.
Regards,
Shane Phillips
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02-11-09, 17:17
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As stated before, you'd need to know how much traffic their website received to get a better idea of what their actual requirements are (VPS or dedicated for instance).
As for the OS, it seems that Windows is definitely necessary due to the ASP requirement. I don't think Linux servers can run ASP pages at the moment and as for PHP pages, both Linux & Windows can run it. So if your friend had a site coded in PHP, it should work on a Windows server as well.
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02-13-09, 07:20
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I am curious as to why you and your friend are questioning what his current host is telling him to do. I don't see any monetary benefit to them telling him that he has to have Windows hosting, unless of course there is a big price difference for that company.
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02-13-09, 12:42
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Certainly, there is a price difference between a Windows server and a Linux one. And this is due to the fact that Windows requires licensing and Linux doesn't. However, I don't think that a web hosting company will suggest a customer to go for Windows as Windows is costly.
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02-13-09, 13:57
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While I understand that I am semi new to the windows side of things, I can tell you full out this clients host and management team are all idiots. They pretty much took his money, did 1/2 the work that was needed and bailed on him. The management company (not the hosting company) had their own site down for over 3 weeks without notice to other clients even the friend, and have still not contacted him about fixing what needs fixed. As far as I can see it looks like the few sites that run asp programs are broken, not sure on that.
Friend is upset that he feels both companies are not living up to par and would rather switch, but with only 2 of the sites I see running anything windows wise, not sure if he could end up either:
Spending more $ and host them all on windows
Spend less $ and host only those needed on windows/some on Linux
Which would really be better for him. He is not comp savvy, so having a VPS would be very hard for him, I think he needs full managed ...
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02-13-09, 16:17
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The servers at BODhost are fully managed and hence a server at BODhost would be the best option for your friend. It will be also possible for him to contact BODhost at any point of time as BODhost provides 24x7 support through Live chat, Phone support and Helpdesk. The best part would be the fact that your friend will not have to hire a management company for managing his server and requirements as BODhost will take care of it. He will only have to pay the charges for the server and the rest will be done by BODhost.
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02-14-09, 11:10
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When we refer to fully managed literally means "spoon feeding" in a good way ofcourse...
It includes from basic installations to custom configurations and any additional requirements.
Regards,
Shane Phillips
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03-01-09, 12:45
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My rule of thumb is:
Using php, go with Linux but windows might be ok.
Using ASP, MSSQL, or anything .NET related, use Windows.
If you don't use any Microsoft created languages, go with Linux because it seems more popular.
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03-02-09, 12:57
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You cannot say that Linux is more popular in comparison to Windows. However, features wise, yes it is better. I would suggest Windows only if you are using any of its technologies for your websites or some of it's applications. Otherwise, you should go for Linux.
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03-02-09, 13:01
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Opt for linux if you are well-versed with it. If not, Windows should be fine.
Regards,
Shane Phillips
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03-05-09, 16:26
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Well this person does need some spoon feeding but I just found out today that it went with another hosting company or I was going to send him over this way. I know tons, but when it comes to windows hosting I am kind of dumb about stuff still. I will keep it in mind though in case he realizes how crappy the other place is and send him back over this way. 
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03-06-09, 12:42
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We are thankful to you and we will make sure that we provide best quality products and hosting service to our customers. We would really appreciate if we get some customers from your side. Please feel free to contact us at any point of time if you have any questions regarding the hosting services we offer.
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03-07-09, 12:47
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I always have questions, about anything in life so expect some randomly from me. I am still trying to get a hang on things. I fell out of geek world for a little bit and I am still working to catch up. I am happy though that you are all willing to answer questions. Having to make people wait for things that could determine what they are purchasing, could detter on not making that purchase for lack of good communication. 
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