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Old 07-01-09, 01:04
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for keyword density, i do find the definition. but i have two problems?
1. the density is the percentage of times a keyword or phrase appears on a web page compared to the total number of words on the page.
that refers to one page, but not the whole pages of a website?

2.for approprate keyword density, some agrees 1-8%, others approve 6-9
%. I want to know the common practice.

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Old 07-01-09, 13:00
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for keyword density, i do find the definition. but i have two problems?
1. the density is the percentage of times a keyword or phrase appears on a web page compared to the total number of words on the page.
that refers to one page, but not the whole pages of a website?

2.for approprate keyword density, some agrees 1-8%, others approve 6-9
%. I want to know the common practice.

1> The definition that you have found, clearly says "appears on a web page". Hence, it refers to one page and not the whole pages.

2> As per the information from Wikipedia, many SEO experts consider the optimum keyword density to be 9 to 15 percent.
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Old 07-01-09, 13:10
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for keyword density, i do find the definition. but i have two problems?
1. the density is the percentage of times a keyword or phrase appears on a web page compared to the total number of words on the page.
that refers to one page, but not the whole pages of a website?

2.for approprate keyword density, some agrees 1-8%, others approve 6-9
%. I want to know the common practice.

1) I think you have answered your question

"The keyword density is the percentage of times a keyword or phrase appears on a web page compared to the total number of words on the page."

Hence, this refers to one page of a site only. No doubt, you can find out the keyword density of the whole site also, however, keyword density of a web page is mostly considered

2) Well, when it comes to keyword density, you will get different opinions from webmasters According to my experience, the keyword density of a web page should be 5-7%. Basically, the web page should appear normal and natural to readers as well as search engines which will give you better rankings
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Understand that your content should be written keeping in mind that its going to be read by humans, hence it should be in an easily readable language. Depending on the content of a web page the density of keywords vary. On an average keyword density which is anywhere between 7 to 11 % of the total content is ok. Let those keywords come naturally, do not try to forcefully fit it in the sentence, failing to do so, visitors would not understand what you are trying to say, this would inturn create a negative impact on them.
It is a simple yet effective technique to write the content in MS Word first, rectify all the errors and only then upload it to the website.
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I always knew it to be 7% as well, but if I am reading all of this correctly no matter where my site is hosted on a shared server, dedicated server or VPS, I am doing it all wrong since my density is off. GRRR
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I always knew it to be 7% as well, but if I am reading all of this correctly no matter where my site is hosted on a shared server, dedicated server or VPS, I am doing it all wrong since my density is off. GRRR
The keyword density for your site does not depend on the hosting package you have for hosting your site If your site is hosted on a Shared, VPS or Dedicated server, it won't affect the keyword density of your site. Also, the search engines are not aware of the kind of hosting package on which your site is hosted (as far as I know ).

You can check the keyword density of a webpage or your site by some tools which are available to check the keyword density

You cannot completely rely on these tools as these tools might not give you exact results but you can atleast get an idea about the keyword density of the webpage or your site which can certainly help
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Old 07-03-09, 00:33
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I always knew it to be 7% as well, but if I am reading all of this correctly no matter where my site is hosted on a shared server, dedicated server or VPS, I am doing it all wrong since my density is off. GRRR
Yeah thats absolutely correct, the hosting package has nothing to do with the keyword density.Though the hosting package can play some role in the success of the website as the performance of the website may marginally vary according to the server configuration.
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Yeah thats absolutely correct, the hosting package has nothing to do with the keyword density.Though the hosting package can play some role in the success of the website as the performance of the website may marginally vary according to the server configuration.
The hosting package on which your sites are hosted definitely effects the performance of the sites and other aspects which are really important.

The first effect will be seen on the number of visitors you have on your site. If your site loads slowly, the visitors of your site won't like this and they will stop visiting your site which is certainly not good. If you have an E-commerce site you will notice the effect of this in the sales of your site.

The second effect might be seen in the search engine rankings of your site. Though, there is no proof for this (if there is, I don't know about it ) but some of the webmasters agree to it that search engines must have some kind of algorithm to check the site loading speed and if your site loads slowly, the rankings of your site may be affected.
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In my opinion, you should never, ever sacrifice fluidity and content quality just to up the keyword density. A poorly-written, incomprehensible article could be chock-full of keywords, but if nobody is going to return to the page or link to it, who cares?

A well-written article will typically have enough keywords, assuming it stays on topic and doesn't meander too much.
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In my opinion, you should never, ever sacrifice fluidity and content quality just to up the keyword density. A poorly-written, incomprehensible article could be chock-full of keywords, but if nobody is going to return to the page or link to it, who cares?

A well-written article will typically have enough keywords, assuming it stays on topic and doesn't meander too much.
It is always said that one shouldn't write content for search engines and just to get high rankings in the search engines. The content should be written for readers and hence it should have keywords only where it is necessary to have those keywords The content shouldn't be full of keywords just to improve the rankings and keyword density

If the content is written for search engines and to maintain the keyword density, the website will never get good rankings in the search engines and the readers will not find the website easily If the website is not found, you will not get readers for it and even if a reader lands up on your website, he/she will never come back as the content is not good
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It is always said that one shouldn't write content for search engines and just to get high rankings in the search engines. The content should be written for readers and hence it should have keywords only where it is necessary to have those keywords The content shouldn't be full of keywords just to improve the rankings and keyword density

If the content is written for search engines and to maintain the keyword density, the website will never get good rankings in the search engines and the readers will not find the website easily If the website is not found, you will not get readers for it and even if a reader lands up on your website, he/she will never come back as the content is not good
Exactly. This is why I completely ignore supposed "target" percentages. If the content is well-written and on topic, it *will* contain enough keywords.

I can't stress it enough: write for your audience, not the bots!
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Is it necessary for an article to have the right density of keywords? I do not check for keyword density when I write in my blogs. I don't even identify keywords. Maybe that's the reason I don't get traffic on my blogs. I just write what I feel or what I think. Is that good or bad?
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Old 07-17-09, 11:18
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Is it necessary for an article to have the right density of keywords? I do not check for keyword density when I write in my blogs. I don't even identify keywords. Maybe that's the reason I don't get traffic on my blogs. I just write what I feel or what I think. Is that good or bad?
You can probably put a little more effort into it than that, but you don't need to change your writing style if it's what works for you. Just read over what you've written and ask yourself if you're staying on topic, using clear language, and using the vocabulary that gets your point across best. If you can say "yes" to all of these, you're most likely doing fine.
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Old 07-17-09, 14:06
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A tool is always more fun that trying to count the words on your own. I am not sure exactly how off I am but I have seen some random drops in search engines lately and still trying to hit the nail on the head to find out exactly why.
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Old 07-19-09, 10:04
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I always draft my articles in MS word so I can use the word count tool. However, it does not do anything for keyword word density check.
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If you search for "check keyword density" (or anything along those lines), you'll find a bunch of free online tools and a few programs in the results. There are quite a few websites that can scan web pages for keywords instantly.
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Is it necessary for an article to have the right density of keywords? I do not check for keyword density when I write in my blogs. I don't even identify keywords. Maybe that's the reason I don't get traffic on my blogs. I just write what I feel or what I think. Is that good or bad?
Another way to know if your writing is interesting and engaging enough is to ask someone to read it, if they take long and start and stop, then I would take that as a clue.
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Exactly. This is why I completely ignore supposed "target" percentages. If the content is well-written and on topic, it *will* contain enough keywords.

I can't stress it enough: write for your audience, not the bots!
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